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tonight on "nightline," held captive. an exclusive interview with the two women who solved the jaycee dugard abduction. their disturbing talk with phill phillip go -- garrido is explained. so what now for jaycee and the two children fathered by the alleged abductor? the inside story of what the children said. game of their lives. a high school football team takes the field tonight, playing
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for coach thomas, who was killed by one of their own. captions paid for by abc, inc. good evening, everyone. i'm terry moran. the jay -- jaycee dugard case has confounded the public and it's one of the most extraordinary kidnappings in history. an 11-year-old held captive in the backyard in california for 18 years. neighbors say they spoke with her through a fence and saw her two children. so how was this kept secret for so long? dugard's torment ended when a police officer and her colleague acted on a hunch after a chance encounter with phillip garrido. his answers left them baffled. the two sat down with
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"nightline" contributor lisa ling for this interview. >> some answers came today about the couple who allegedly abducted jaycee dugard. >> at this point in time, i order mr. garrido to be held without bail. >> phil garrido and his wife nancy pled not guilty to 29 felony counts, including forcible abduction, rape and imprisonment. they say grabbed jaycee dugard from the street outside her home. >> my daughter was just kidnapped. >> they brought her here to their house in antioch, california where she lived in tents hidden in the backyard, and this is where jaycee allegedly lived for 18 years. >> it was all furnished with electrical cords, there was a rudiment outhouse and shower as if you were camping.
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>> during her 18 years in captivity, jaycee gave birth to two daughters now 11 and 15. both fathered by her alleged kidnapper. it seems that neither jaycee or her children had ever seen a doctor. during that time, no one stopped phillip garrido until he walked into lisa campbell's office on the berkeley campus. i assume monday started as typical monday? >> nothing unusual until 1:00. >> what happened? >> 20 after 1:00 i received a call from the records clerk and he said that there was a gentleman who wanted to discuss a special event. when he came in, he had two little children with them. two little girls. he said he wanted to talk to me about an vent that was going to change the world. he appeared to be a little unstable, he was all over the place, he was extremely animated. he said he was phillip garrido. what's the nature of the event, and he said it's god's desire. and i said, okay, we'll talk about it tomorrow, between 2:00 and 2:30.
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okay, great, you'll be so happy with this, so he left the office and i was leaving the office shortly after him. he left the office with the girls. >> concerned, campbell asked u.c. police officer ally jacobs to look into garrido and this led them to unwittingly crack the 18-year kidnapping case. >> i contacted ally. then i informed you of what i told you, i've got the guy coming in, he's got the two little girls with him, a little peculiar guy, just try to figure out, maybe see something i didn't see, maybe another witness to what was going on. well well, if you're that concerned, let's run the guy. >> find out if he's on parole and find out he's a sex registrant. concerned about the sex registrant part of it, i went into lisa's office and i told her. i said, what do you want me to do? what do you need from me?
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i need to -- i need you to sit in here with me. >> this is your office. >> this is my office. this is where i was standing. >> and garrido was pretty much in this space up at the desk, and just being occupying this whole space. >> jacobs turned her attention to the young girls. >> at first he was talking so much about so many different things, i said i'm sorry to interrupt you, but who are these lovely young ladies that you brought? these are my daughters. >> what did you talk about with the girls? >> they told us how old they were. and we asked them, why aren't you what school and they said, i'm heome schooled. i noticed the little one, had a bump over her head. i said, what's that over your head? she said it was a birth defect, i'll have it for the rest of my life. it was rehearsed, it caught me off guard and i think my
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mother's intuition kicked in and i wanted to ascertain if the girls were okay. not from a cop stand point, but from a mother standpoint. it was like talking to a robot almost. it was more like they were programmed. this is who we are. >> they almost -- they almost had pride of her father. >> her father was the lord in her eyes it seemed. like she was just looking at him like he was a superstar. >> what did they look like? >> it was like little house on the prairie attire is the best way i can describe it. they were very pale. >> blonde hair, bright blue eyes. they had the same blue eyes he had. >> were they clean? >> they were clean and well groomed. they just did not appear to be well nourished. >> had you ever encountered children like this? >> the younger one had a look like this -- >> i'm thinking like a cop now.
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i'm thinking can i get the girls away from him and talk to them by themselves? i know he's on parole, he's got a parole agent, worse comes to worst, i'll talk to the p.o. and discuss and maybe they can call child services. maybe they know more about the situation than i do as we're having the conversation with him and watching the kids what are you feeling? >> i'm kind of disgusted because i'm thinking of all the scenarios that are going on. i wanted to grab them and take them away from the man. but i couldn't. >> campbell and jacobs had little option but to let him go. the bizarre encounter bothered them. >> i listened to my gut and the only thing i came up and i told lisa i'll call the parole officer. when i mentioned the daughters he said wait a minute, he doesn't have any daughters.
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my stomach dropped. >> after that conversation with the parole officer, it was only a matter of hours before the garridos were in police custody. but could jaycee have been saved sooner? >> on november 30, 2006, we missed an opportunity to bring earlier closure. a caller to our 911 dispatch offered that there were tents in the neighbor's backyard. that people were living in them and that there were young children. we made contact with mr. garrido in the front yard of his home. the responding deputy determined that there was not any criminal misbehavior. this is not an acceptable outcome. >> other neighbors also seemed to have been aware of the young girls living in the backyard.
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>> they used to talk with the little girls through the fence. but they never played with them or anything. they just talked to them. >> yeah, it was a little hole in the fence. we used to look at her and we used to talk. >> in his mea culpa today, the sheriff department said they should have acted more like jacobs. >> you know, i'll give you a classic example of what i'll describe as world-class police work. good instincts, good reactions. go to u.c. berkeley campus police. i mean, that's -- that's -- what that officer did over there, that was world class. i mean, her instincts led her to ask some questions, which led her then to call a parole officer. >> i'm the only one and lisa was the only one that really know -- that really knew what happened that day. so i was watching the news. that's not what happened at all. i'll get my chance to tell our side of the story and all the pieces and stars lined up.
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>> it was teamwork. it was not one effort by one individual person. it was probably one of the best examples of teamwork in law enforcement that i have seen. >> i'm just so sad that she suffered for so long. >> i'm lisa ling for "nightline" in berkeley, california. >> and there's a final grim note to this story. police in pittsburgh, california, have issued a warrant to search the now infamous home of phillip garrido to see if there's a link between him and a string of murders of prostitutes in the early 1990's. thanks to lisa ling for that report and this extraordinary story. when we come back, how a community is coping with the loss of their beloved high school football coach.
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in his 34 years at a high school in iowa, ed thomas had so much success they called his team's playing field the sacred acre.
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not only did thomas win two state championships and send four players to the nfl, but he helped lead his community through the devastation through a tornado in may of 2008. but then 13 months later, tragedy struck again. espn e-60's stephen has the story. >> on the morning of june 24, in this red barn behind the sacred acre -- >> 911. >> we had a -- i think a shooting right now. at the high school. >> yeah, at the high school, where? >> in the bus barn. >> in the bus barn. >> yeah. >> do you know who it was? >> no, i don't. kids had come running out and said someone had shot ed thomas. >> ed -- okay. >> i remember 8:07 on my cell phone, and my mom told me -- she just said, aaron, your dad has been shot. someone shot your dead. i said what? >> ed thomas was 58.
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mark becker was quickly arrested and charged with first degree murder. trial has been scheduled for september 15 when he will claim insanity and/or diminished capacity. becker had played for thomas, as had his father dave and two brothers including scott who started as a junior for the falcons last season. attending the same church, the thomases and beckers had been family friends for more than 30 years. what difficulty is there in accepting the way it happened? >> if i did not have faith, i have no idea how a person would accept this or get through this. it's not for me to know god's plan. i just have to trust an believe that a lot of good is going to come out of this terrible situation. >> the service was close to camera -- closed to cameras. but pastor brad zinnecker
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remembers the words spoken by his oldest son, aaron. >> he gets up and he gives this passionate charge. you can mourn today, but tomorrow you get to it -- you get to work, you get early, you stay late and you live your life with a passion and that's how you honor my dad. >> i think it's hard for people to argue with me if i'm his only son. >> outside the church, hundreds line the street to the cemetery to say their final good-byes. >> a bunch of the local football teams had shown up in their own jerseys and lined the street and gave the symbol of the fourth quarter. and it was just so powerful, driving through that. >> let's go! >> what do you now do as a
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football team to honor your dad? >> if you want to really honor dad, every time you'll come out to the practice field and work as hard as you can. that's the same thing my dad has been telling kids or 30 something years. >> scott becker! >> among those listening to if message -- the message was senior scott becker, the younger brother of the man accused of killing his coach. what concern did you have for scott being welcomed back and embraced by this team and in this community? >> scott is such a good kid, i didn't worry about it. we had a new student come in and show scott around and that speaks to the kind of kid that scott is. >> e-60 requested an interview with mark becker's father, dave. the beckers politely declined in an e-mail. in part it reads -- we do hope to share our story in the future, about the mercy and grace that thomas family, our church family and our entire community has shown to our family.
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>> those players really have rallied around scott. i think that's what ed would have wanted them to do. to love him and say we're going to go through this with you. we're going to stay a team. we're going to stay strong. >> on this august 28, the falcons will once again take to the sacred acre. but they'll do it without the coach. still, tryintog >> it's going to be a hard day for me, not seeing him on the field. but you know, again, it goes back to what he wants to do. he would want us to play the game and play it with the best of our ability. i guess that's how we're going to go into it. >> play with heart. play with great enthusiasm. play the kind of football we play here. every down, every snap.
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"nightline" continues from new york city with terry moran. >> well, from earning the title hip-hop's first lady, to starring on a hit tv show and
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receiving an oscar nomination for her role in the movie "chicago", queen latifah has had a brilliant and multifaceted career. her new album "persona" was released this week and she discusses the music that influenced her in tonight's "playlist". ♪ ♪ washes that one too when you're good to mama ♪ ♪ mama is good to you >> people like stevie onder, tina marie, >> well, my brother and i we loved playing jackson 5 records. you know, "dancing machine" was one of our favorite records. it was like, you know, early robot days, you know? first of all, they were young,
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they were black, they were on tv, they had cartoons. janet jackson was one of my biggest inspirations to want to be an actor. people who i saw who made me think, wow, i want to do that, just because they looked like me for a change. ♪ "adore" by prince is i think one of my favorite records. prince sounds first of all, like no one else. he rocked the guitar like nobody's business and i loved the guitar when i was a kid. i wanted to play guitar. here was this guy like dancing and singing and he was sexy. and he had these nice lips. and he had heart. i'm a piscean, so i kind of gravitate to all that emotional, sensitive stuff. i think it kind of spoke to me. and plus, his album came with a poster in it. yeah. ♪ ♪ you know me
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down with ♪ >> i think naughty by nature "opp" i have to go with that. naughty is from east orange, new jersey and i grew up in north and east orange and we're all friends. plus, we worked together. it was just one of the biggest records in the country that year. i watched them rock stadiums full of people with this song. ♪ ♪ i'm not gonna write you a love song ♪ >> i like sara bareilles. "love song". i think the piano -- it gets you going immediately. ♪ it's just -- the melody of the song. i like a song with a good melody. to me, songs can be funky or complicated or stack a thousand melodies on them, but something to be said about a good song with a good melody that someone just sings. ♪ so crazy in love >> i think "crazy in love" was
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the song that took beyonce to a whole different level. because it was beyonce, it wasn't destiny's child. but the video for it, the jay-z look on it, the booty. ♪ every girl was trying to do that move in the club. i mean, she set that off. her and the dances made that something that every girl in every club thought they could uh-oh, on you. that's what we did. so no one has yet to touch her in that realm. i think she's still the queen of the young singers, you know? ♪
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